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Post by grizz1 on Jan 30, 2007 22:43:57 GMT -5
I would like to do some shed antler hunting but by the pics I'm still getting from the trail cams looks like they're still holding on to them in my area.Any one else still getting bucks on your camera's?It is bitter cold here so won't shed hunt until till the antlers disappear.
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Post by Buckhunter on Feb 1, 2007 16:42:06 GMT -5
They still have there head gear around my area also. I have never found a shed, but I start looking at the end of Feb. I have bumped bucks still holding the antlers in late Feb.
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Post by grizz1 on Feb 1, 2007 20:09:29 GMT -5
buckhunter31,I sure don't claim to be an expert at finding sheds either,most of the time I find them while farming and see them from a tractor or truck.The pics we've been getting this last week such as the buck I posted shows all deer still have their antlers but I've had relatives finding sheds in Iowa for a week.Most of my buck pics are coming into where cattle are being fed & I thought the good nutrition might be helping them to retain their headgear longer but Iowa has it's fair share of corn so there goes my theory.
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Post by Brian89 on Feb 1, 2007 21:34:06 GMT -5
My dad was predator hunting last weekend and found an eight points shed that still had blood on the antler.
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Post by grizz1 on Feb 1, 2007 22:05:15 GMT -5
Brian89 I've never found one that fresh ,your dad must have been right behind that buck.Sounds like they're starting to fall off.
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Post by Buckhunter on Feb 2, 2007 17:29:18 GMT -5
I think it depends on alot of different things. Nutrion is a big one if they were injured they will lose them early also. I have heard that if they ran real hard during the rut that they will lose them earlier. I dont know if any of it is true. I just go out and due my post season scouting and look for sheds while im out there. Its all fun
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Post by Limbhanger on Feb 3, 2007 20:44:04 GMT -5
Hey guys I found this from Dr. Mickey Hellickson concerning shedding.
Believe it or not, the 23 degree tilt of the Earth¹s axis is the ultimate cause for the annual cycles in deer antlers. This tilt is what causes Earth's annually recurring seasons. Deer have adapted their physiology and behavior to these seasonal changes, including antler growth. The environmental cue that regulates antler growth is the amount of day length, or photoperiod. The physiological cue is the male hormone testosterone. The way this works is complicated, but changing day lengths are sensed by the eyes, which send this message, via the optic nerve, to the pineal gland. The pineal gland - a pea-sized organ at the base of the brain - produces many different hormones. One hormone produced is luteinizing hormone, which controls the amount of testoserone produced in the testes. The antler cycle lags behind the changes in day length because the hormonal changes take time. During fall, decreasing day lengths cause melatonin production to increase, resulting in decreased production of both luteinizing hormone and testosterone. Decreasing testosterone levels then cause the antlers to shed.
Antler Shedding In the past, it was believed that deer withdrew to secluded places to shed their antlers in order to avoid the loss of virility in 'public.' However, it is likely that deer are unaware of when they will lose their antlers. Antlers are shed when a thin layer of tissue destruction, called the abscission layer, forms between the antler and the pedicle. This layer forms as a result of the decrease in testosterone. As the connective tissue is dissolved, the antler loosens and is either broken free, or falls off on its own. This degeneration of the bone-to-bone bond between the antler and the pedicle is the fastest deterioration of living tissue known in the animal kingdom. In whitetails, a restricted diet has been found to cause bucks to shed their antlers early. It has been suspected that the lack of adequate nutrition somehow effects testosterone output. Nutritionally-stressed bucks may also grow their antlers and shed their velvet later. Older-aged bucks are thought to shed their antlers earlier than younger bucks. It has also been reported that higher-ranked (more dominant) bucks cast their antlers sooner than lower-ranked (subordinant) bucks. Older-aged, more dominant bucks probably shed their antlers sooner because of the high energy costs incurred in maintaining a higher dominance rank. The farther deer are from the equator, the more defined their antler cycle. In other words, northern deer have a shorter "window" of when antler shedding can occur, compared to deer herds in southern states. In addition, the specific date when a buck will shed his antlers may be determined more by his individual antler cycle than any other factor. This cycle is independent of other bucks and is believed to be centered on each animal's birth date. Penned deer studies have allowed scientists to measure the exact dates of antler shedding for individual deer year after year. One study in Mississippi found that individual bucks usually shed their antlers at the same time each year and almost always during the same week. Yearling bucks with only spike antlers shed sooner than yearling bucks with forked antlers, likely because they were more nutritionally stressed than fork-antlered bucks. This study also indicated there was no relationship between antler mass and date of antler shedding, although other studies have shown that bucks shed their antlers earlier as they grow older. Additional penned studies have also revealed that bucks usually shed both antlers within three days of each other. Although there is no clear evidence that weather directly affects antler shedding, it is likely that severe winters may also cause bucks to shed their antlers earlier than normal because of the nutritional stress this causes.
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Post by THE GOB-FATHER on Feb 3, 2007 22:37:46 GMT -5
Great read LH! Karma to you on that.
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Post by THE GOB-FATHER on Feb 3, 2007 22:39:26 GMT -5
I'm going to move this thread as it's more of a shed type thread than it is a trail cam thread.
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Post by grizz1 on Feb 4, 2007 10:24:09 GMT -5
Good reading limbhanger,thanks,I've heard or read most of those theories before but you put it together nicely.I'm just anxious to start finding some.After reading your post I feel like I've stayed at the Holliday Inn Express!
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Post by Buckhunter on Feb 4, 2007 11:02:55 GMT -5
great info thanks Karma on its way from me also.
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