The Inconsiderate Hunters

[bayoukid]

Well, glad this day is over. The big bad dog hunters managed to kill 2 deer running across the road. One from off my property and the other from across the pasture across the road that belongs to somebody else. That was the same pasture that they missed one earlier today. They managed to wound and loose 5. They ran back and forth across my property about 6 times today. So, they shot off the road a total of 12 times. I was scared to let my son and my niece play in the yard for all the shooting and trucks flying by.

I did manage to see one deer today tho. She was skint back doing about 100mph with about 12 walkers on her @$$ slap dab in the middle of my property. All the dog hunters are all out here at the end of the driveway now with the road blocked, drinking beer and bragging about those two little ol' yearlings they killed.

[Country2dBone]

dog hunting, man i just don't know what to say on the subject except the guys on my lease pay thier dues just like me so they have the right...... on the other hand if it were on property i owned and did not want dogs on there would be a problem. but the way i seeit going deer dogs will be outlawed with in a few years and already are in a good part of the state in arkansas so i figure let em enjoy it while they can. but if they got to dangerous around my children......... ol country still has a redneck side i don't like to show but piss me off like that i turn colors like the hulk except it's just my neck that gets red instead of green.

[bayoukid]

If I catch them dogs, I'm gonna take them up the road to my Vietnamese neighbors for Christmas! ;D

[BackWoods]

[Webejonesin2]

Some people just dont care, they are just out for themselves, no respect.

[hocktl]

Yeah, tough subject. TO be honest I prefer bow and black powder because the Dogs don't come out till gun. ONce that happens, deer are scarce unless it's a yearling or it has a dog on it's tail as it goes flying by.

I guess I understand the tradition and I know guys who like nothing better than to hear a dog hit and take off. I have mixed feelings. I prefer not to dog hunt but I sorts understand the guys who do. My issue is not dog hunting it's the owners that use every advantage, to take advantage of running them over any piece of property they can get them on. I understand how a dog doesn't know boundries but an owner does and they sure stratigically dump them out in locations not associated with the property they have rights to. They also take advantages of the law of the land that sez they have the right to trespass in search of the dogs. Anytime you see a hunter not where their supposed to be the first thing outta their mouth is "i'm looking for my dog". Most times that is crap!!! I guess IMO the bottom line is that it will eventually go away and not because of dog hunting of itself but the abuse of the situation. They will only have themselves to blame. All just my humble opinion from a guy who hunts in a dog state.

[bayoukid]

I was raised running dogs. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand where you are coming from and I understand the love of the tradition of running dogs. I do not wish to see it banned and I have fought to help save it here in Louisiana and will continue to fight to save it. However, I think that there should be stricter regulations on the sport and I see a need of permits being an answer. I think that dog hunters should for startes, have to take a "saftey course" just as firearm and bowhunters have to take a course covering saftey and ethics. Also, I think clubs, leases or private land owners should have a minimum of 1000 acres to be able to apply for the permits.

I would like to see dog hunters unite to forum a new "coalition" of Ethical Dog Hunters. I know a guy that is doing that very thing right now. It is needed to help save the tradition of running dogs. It is also needed to teach to the "unethical" dog hunters the importance of needing to be "ethical" in order to save this tradition if they would like to be able to pass this tradition on to their kids.

In this time of "anti-hunter", we ALL as hunters need to ban together to protect what we ALL have in common, and that is the right to hunt, no matter of the "specific" hunt that we make. From crossbow hunting to running dogs, from trapping to bowfishing, we are all Brothers in a life long tradition that is slowly slipping thru our fingers and we must do what is right to protect it for our kids!

[hocktl]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I would add that not all clubs or hunters are slobs when it comes to dog hunting. But there are many that use it as an easy opportunity to push the limits of ethics. Until that is fixed it will be tough to unit the doits and dontits. From what I see there is alot of anomosities between the two. We lease a farm that runs some cattle and the ajoining property is a hunting lease to another club. The farm owner where we lease is full of stories from the ajoining club cutting holes in fences to allow dogs to access his side to them running his calfs. He even had one instance where they cut the entire fence and took a four wheeler through. While on that subject the four wheeler croud could use some ethics training about property lines as well but that is a whole other subject.
I agree though that we need to protect our hunting heritage. That involves policing our ranks before the non hunters do.

[hocktl]

Oh, I forgot Karma to you Bayou.

Also I forgot to mention that more regulation might not be the answer. Seems everytime there is a problem we throw regulations at them and many times those laws are swayed by folks who don't neccesarily understand the problem i.e. non hunters.

I would say it is not a laws of the land problem but a ranks problem of ethics and what we do when someone is not lookng. Those are values ingrained from our upbringing and conditioned through our peers. In my opinion more laws and regulations are the last thing we need. It only opens the doors for the non nazi's to get their foot in some more. We as a community need to police our own with the regulations already in place and show less tolerance to those in our ranks who defy the ethics we already know.

Again, just my opinion which are like armpits. Everybody got them and they all stink.