Stoeger M2000 12ga Shotgun

[hurley2323]

I am looking for a 12ga semi-auto for turkey and bird hunting ect. in the $500-$600 price range. I did a little research on this Stoeger M2000 12ga semi-auto, looks like a decent shotgun.

has anyone shot one of these yet or heard bad things about them? reliability, function, ect.
thanks for any comments

[Ghost]

I make it a point to never bash a brand of gun or gun maker in general. All guns Beretta (Benelli, Franchi, Stoger), Browning, Remington, etc. have problems. The Beretta Family (Stoger included) are very fine guns but they do have problems. I own several Berettas and, on occasion, have had to send a few new guns (Later Models) back for repairs. I have buddies that have the Benelli (Beretta family) and they to have seen a few minor problems that required repairs. Stoger is the same way. Stoger has some of the same problems that plague the Benelli i.e the Benelli Click. Although it is minor it is still frustrating to buy a new gun to find that a part is defective. 10 years ago it would be unheard of to hear of a new Beretta having to be sent back for repairs. Now days it is more common although it is still rare. Benelli does have their problems and it is more common to here of these problems, Stoger included with this line. Why, I do not know. Although Beretta owns a good percentage of Benelli / Stoger, you do not see the same problems in a Beretta that you would find in a Benelli/Stoger. So to answer your question. Stoger / Benelli do have problems right out of the box and they are frequently talked about. Look at Benelli's sight and look for their forums page, also look at www.shotgunworld.com. Look at their forums and find Benelli thread. There are a lot of threads posted by frustrated Benelli /Stoger owners here. You can find out more about the exact problems that plague these guns.

Please do not get me wrong, Benelli/ Stoger are fine guns so are Beretta, Remington, Browning, etc. are as well. But when I say that these forums have many threads posted by upset customers, this is a very small compilation of customers who have found problems with their new guns, be it the manufacturers fault or the customers fault. This we have no way of knowing, who's at fault. So remember, that what you read in these forums, they are a small percentage of guns actually sold.

Buying a gun in todays market / world is becoming more of a gamble. That is, weather or not you will get a gun free of defects or not. Things have changed considerably from 10 or twenty years ago. Take a Remington 870 for example. An 870 built today and compared to an 870 built 20 or 30 years ago would be like comparing apples to oranges. There would be no doubt that the older 870 is a better built gun in all aspects.

Going back to the gamble that we make when we buy a gun. Granted, 20 years or even 30 years ago, we still took a gamble when we went to buy a new gun. Although the gamble at this time was very slim and it was unheard of to hear about a gun that had frequent problems, be it any manufacturer. Where as today, when we go to the gun store we seem to be taking a bigger gamble when we purchase a gun. Can we reduce the odds of us getting a new gun with defects? Yes, but by what margin. I do not know. Does spending 1500 to 2000 dollars on a Beretta insure that you will get a quality gun free of manufacturer defects. Sadly, No!

So, my suggestion to you would be not to put so much value in all the defects that you can find written by other owners. But, put great value in those that have had great success in getting those defects resolved by the manufacturer. Try to find the gun that has a great manufacturer standing behind that firearm. Research the seller of the gun and are they going to help you in working with the manufacturer in the event a problem does occur.

[LongSpur39]

Very good information Brian. Thanks for sharing your insight and your opinions.

[Kt29]

Great report. Thanks!

[proximity4]

The Stoeger Model 2000 fires everything from 1-1/8 ounce field and target loads to the heaviest 3” waterfowl loads without adjustments. Plus, with no propellant gas venting into the operating system, the Model 2000 stays cleaner.
Reliability, versatility, and value make the Model 2000 the ideal semi-auto shotgun. No other in its price range even compares.
Choose from Realtree® APG™, Advantage Max-4 HD™, black synthetic, or satin walnut finishes.

[Rut N Strut Game Calls]

I have hunted with a M2000 for Turkeys for hte last 4 years and hacve not had any problems wtih the Gun...other than smashing heads! I had the forcing Cones lengthened, Trigger polished and adjusted to 3 pounds and matched with a Gobbler Guns "Final Strut" Choke Tube. This Gun consistnetly puts 79+ pellets in the Head and Neck of a Turkey Target at 40 Yards...I stopped counting after that! There was no reason to. The Head and Neck looked like Swiss cheese! It has killed Turkeys up to 60 Yards and normally pops their Drumsticks out of the socket from the Gobbler flipping over so hard!

I recently purchased the newer version of Stoeger Auto, the M3500...I have only had one opportunity to shoot this gun...I can't wait to have some work done to this gun and find the right Choke and Shell combination! It should be awesome!