BETTER CALIBER 270 OR 7MM-08

[whitetail23]

:-*HEY GUYS WHATS THE BETTER DEER CALIBER? 270 OR 7MM-08..RECOIL WISE? 270 OR 7MM-08

[Ghost]

coreection the 270 is 18.9 lbs
and the 7mm - 08 is 12.6 lbs

given the load and weight of the gun, respectively

[Ghost]

as far as witch is better. ther are three types of 270, 270 WSM, 270 Win, and the last but not least 270 weatherby. Which one are u using?

[Ghost]

The 270 Win

When the exterior ballistics and track record on big game of this one are compared to that of its competition, it becomes embarrassingly evident that we haven't evolved very far in mountain rifle cartridge development since Winchester unveiled the .270 in 1925. Introduced in the Model 54 and later available in the Model 70, every rifle maker who is anybody now offers the .270 Winchester in a bewildering variety of bolt actions, single shots, slide actions, and autoloaders.

Only the .30-06 is more popular than the .270 Winchester among big game hunters, a state of affairs that does not take a genius to figure out. The .270 Winchester offers superb accuracy in good bolt action rifles, a flat trajectory, and good long range punch, all at a level of recoil tolerable by all but the most inexperienced shooters. The longest running debate among fans of the .270 is which bullet weight is best for shooting big game. Probably, those who advocate the 130 grain bullet for game up to the size of mule deer and the 150 grain bullet for bigger stuff have the stronger argument.

An outstanding but often overlooked bullet for shooting elk, moose, and heavier African antelope with the .270 is the Nosler 160 grain Partition loaded to about 2800 fps in a 22" barrel. When it comes to powders, the .270 Winchester and H4831 go together like vanilla ice cream and apple pie. Some .270 fans prefer H4350 and IMR-4350 for high velocity loads and IMR-4064 or H380 for excellent accuracy at lower velocities. For an accurate varmint load, try H380 or IMR-4064 behind a 100 or 110 grain bullet.

Source: Hodgdon Data Manual, 26th Edition

The 7mm - 08

The 7mm-08 was introduced in the Remington Model 788 and Model 700 rifles in 1980. After the Model 788 carbine was dropped, the 7mm-08 appeared secondary only to the 7mm magnums in velocity among the various 7mm cartridges. In factory rifles with 18-1/2" and 24" barrels, the 140 grain factory load produces, respectively, 2750 to 2800 and 2900 fps. Such performance comes as a result of introducing the cartridge in modern bolt action rifles, which allows the 7mm-08 to be factory loaded to modern chamber pressures.

Remington's timing in introducing the 7mm-08 was quite good. It came along at the beginning of a trend which saw many eastern hunters begin to switch to short action, turn bolt carbines chambered to cartridges with greater flexibility than those of the .30-30 class. Much of the eastern deer hunting country consists of thick wooded terrain intermixed with logging slashes and cultivated fields. Hunters asked for a short rifles quick handling enough for woods hunting and they accurate and powerful enough for long range shooting. They got exactly what they asked for in the Model 788 and Model Seven carbines.

In addition to big game hunting, the 7mm-08 is also quite popular as an accuracy cartridge used for metallic silhouette (rifle and handgun) and Hunter Rifle class benchrest competition. For competitive shooting, a 168 grain match grade bullet and H380, H4895, IMR-4895, or IMR4320 is a winning combination. For big game hunting with lighter bullets, H414, H380, and W-760 are good choices.

Source: Hodgdon Data Manual 26th Edition

[Ghost]

please read correction on post 2

[Ghost]

I always get a kick out of these types of questions. It is not which caliber is the best because both the 7mm 0 - 8 and the 270 have their place. What really needs to be looked at is, which caliber will best perform under the conditions it will be used in. gun A and gun B may not be the best selection for someone that needs a gun with an extreme flat trajectory but may be a great gun for someone in another region of the U.S. Now is the 270 and the 7mm 0 - 8 a flat shooting caliber? Yes, but there are flatter calibers out there. I personally run a .257 wthrby. At 400 yrds my set up only drops 3.4 inches. Would I use this caliber for close up work, that is under 150 yards? No, its to fast and to destructive on medium sized game. One of two things are going to happen. 1. I get a clean pass through without the bullet expanding, or 2. I destroy half of the deer.

What I am trying to get across is, look at the conditions that you are hunting in and then make the best educated guess that you can.

[grizz1]

I won't run any cal. down, as previously stated, they all have their place and the 30-30 has taken more deer probably than any other.

I will however praise the .270 for the same reason I chose it to hunt with 40 years ago here in the midwest.I wanted an all around rifle as I could not afford an assortment, one needed to do the job on all the game I would hunt. The factory ammo comes in a wide range of bullet weights and if handloading there is a very broad range of bullets available for the .270. The 90 grain can be used on coyote, 130 on deer and I've hunted black bear with the 150 grain with excellent results.
One of the greatest reasons for owning a .270 or 30-06 besides being good all around calibers is the fact that I've been able to walk into any sporting goods stores throughout the country and Canada and you can buy shells over the counter for these guns. My stepdad found the 25--06 to be a bit more difficult to find ammo for all the way from Mo through Ontario,Canada, why he didn't have a good supply before we left is another story.
If someone wants to will me their .300 Win, .257 wby, .264 or a 7MM Mag I would sure take them and be very happy as I would use them but for my budget I've done fine with the .270.
I'm also a firm believer in the person's ability to shoot well and take the time to place their shot well as no caliber makes up for poor skills and unwise decisions.

[Ghost]

Grizz is correct in that the 270 has a wider range of loads and can be found just about any where you go. The 7mm 0 - 8 is not as readily available.

[whitetail23]

270 WIN