MGCC
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Post by MGCC on Aug 7, 2005 11:54:15 GMT -5
I have gotten to point that I would rather kill a deer LONG RANGE 250 yards plus.
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Post by timhicks on Aug 7, 2005 12:14:59 GMT -5
I must be crazy to get in on this one. I dont see how they could compare. I hunt with both but a deer with a bow is a true trophy a deer with a gun is just dinner. I dont care if its a 400 yard shot. I then start thinking ethics and thinking about a small flinch and wounded deer. I may be wrong but ,,I will stop Tim
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Post by nygobbler on Aug 7, 2005 12:47:09 GMT -5
Every deer that I ever shot has been with a rifle or a shotgun. Having said that, I just got into bowhunting two years ago after 22 years of hunting. I guess you can say that I am a late bloomer. I really like bowhunting, its seems to definitely be much more "up close and personal". Either way, I'll take what I can get no matter what I'm using.
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Post by ccromnes on Aug 7, 2005 14:41:52 GMT -5
I've not gotten into bow hunting yet,but been thinking about it. In my opinion it's 50/50. You can argue both sides. O f all the deer I have shot, none have been over 50-75 yards. The type of country I hunt, ya just don't get much of a long shot up here.
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Post by loserchumpandfool on Aug 7, 2005 15:04:52 GMT -5
why argue over someones personal preference.i prefer the bow but also muzzleload and shotgun hunt.i shoot 3d with someone who bowhunts only.at 3d shoots some guys only shoot and hunt with recurves or longbows.as long as the hunter takes high quality ethical shots their weapon of choice is nothing more than personal preference.i disagree with timhicks opinion about a gun kill not being a trophy but it is his opinion and i can and will respect him for that.personally i dont like crossbows except for handicapped hunters but i left posts for Brad Jerman congratulating him on his 200inch typical crossbow kill.like i said it is personal preference and as long as it is a legally taken animal taken with the hunters legal weapon of choice i am nothing but 100% happy for them.but as a parting note i save my vacation time for bowhuntin.
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Post by loserchumpandfool on Aug 7, 2005 15:16:23 GMT -5
my favorite thing to hunt with
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Post by Win Mag on Aug 7, 2005 15:29:10 GMT -5
I think i know what Tim meant,And i'm talking from my experiances.I both gun and bow hunt.More of a bow hunter.The deer i take with a bow seems to have more heart felt meaning than ones i have shot with a gun.This doesn't mean any deer taking with a gun isn't a trophy.After bow hunting for many years,guns just seem much easier to take deer with.I'm not putting words in Tims mouth,But this is how this bow hunters feels and i have several friends that feel the same way.Guess it's a bowhunter thing.
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Post by mrjbigfoot on Aug 7, 2005 15:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by timhicks on Aug 7, 2005 15:40:00 GMT -5
Let me repost. I was not trying to say a gun kill is not a trophy to anyone else , I was speaking for my preference, I have hunted both for many years and shot some really nice deer and hogs , with both . I was trying to say to me a trophy is with a bow, I practice more and set everything up for a bow kill. I have shot a deer/hog with a gun and wished I had shot it with my bow. Thats my mistake not anyone elses. I prefer a kill with a bow to myself. I have seen many gun kills and they are truly trophies. My question was on a 250 yards shot and if a flinch or wind just isnt right , then you have a wounded deer thsts in pain or suffering for a while and that kinda turns my tummy. A trophy can be anything to anybody and I would never take that from anyone. My first deer was with a rifle and it was a spike I was 12 and it is still a trophy to me. I again will say that a kill with a bow is more of a trophy right now than a deer with a rifle to me. I cant always post in words what I am trying to say in person . Sorry if offended anyone.. Tim
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Post by Win Mag on Aug 7, 2005 16:26:27 GMT -5
MrJ I'll bet you can pull a rabbit from a hat too then,Thats a hell of a trick !!
Tim I had a feeling thats what it was you meant.
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Post by mrjbigfoot on Aug 7, 2005 16:44:36 GMT -5
Hey Tim & WM, In Ohio, must of our gun kills have to be a lot closer than rifle states because we're slug (or muzzy) only so we don't get to do any long range shooting. Honestly as far as a positive kill, I think a shotgun slug does a great job within it's effective range. Honestly I've knocked the crap out of a few deer with slugs. You put one in their shoulders, inside/less than 100 yards & they go down like a box of rocks. Do it at short range & you'll see what foot pounds of energy really mean... I've shot 2 different does with 12 gauge slugs, inside of 20 yards, in the shoulder & watched the impact blow them off their feet & through the air for a distance. Actually, I thought it was pretty cool on both occasions & it made me think... I sure as heck hope that nobody ever mistakes me for a deer during slug season...
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Post by Win Mag on Aug 7, 2005 17:30:57 GMT -5
Illinois has slug and muzz and handgun only too MrJ. It would be my second deer(first was bow) in my life that i took with a slug gun,old mossberg 500, 12 ga./ imp cyl.. Just for the record,A golf course has me take care of Nuisance deer with DRN tags( about once every three years).10 deer with in 30 days time, any weapon.Shooting on the course is wide open range.I use my highpowers and only take the does that are on the course it's self and not in the timber.I then donate the meat to churches and food pantrys and myself. You have to take in to account the high velocity rifle bullets travel.The trama the velocity shock wave causes in tissues and organs is devistating w/o the bullet touching them.It still all comes down to bullet placement in the end.
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Post by arkansasdon on Aug 7, 2005 17:45:40 GMT -5
Quote "why argue over someones personal preference." Thats cool, I agree with that statement, everyone is intitled to there own way of takin game and method. Well !, we Arkansasians love archery, Heck our wives and children bowhunt , It's a "Southern Thang" BowHuntin, Close and Personal with Mr. Whitetail. Me Mr. Hoyt love gettin aqainted with Mr. White and tippin him over
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Post by gonehuntn79 on Aug 7, 2005 23:19:19 GMT -5
Well, I figure since I just sunk about $1300 into my first bow, I'd rather kill one with a bow. Season opens here next Monday so I'm gonna try my best then.
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Post by turk2di on Aug 8, 2005 5:38:10 GMT -5
Just my preference
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